Am I getting 3G?

[Pinguino1]

Originally Posted by JKingGrim

No problem. I cant remember where I learned it but I googled and found a few links of people explaining the same thing. Look at post 10 here:
HowardForums: Your Mobile Phone Community & Resource - H icon instead of 3G
Some think "3G" means UMTS only and as soon you add HSDPA or HSUPA you get "H". This is incorrect. I dont know of any carrier that has UMTS rolled out alone without at least HSDPA anwhere but lots of people get "3G". When you have both HSDPA and HSUPA you can now just call it HSPA and thats when you get the H.

Thanks Jking,
I followed your link and that seems to be a consensus by it's not conclusive for lack of source.
I will keep searching, If i find a clear definition I'll share with you.

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[Pinguino1]

Originally Posted by JKingGrim

No problem. I cant remember where I learned it but I googled and found a few links of people explaining the same thing. Look at post 10 here:
HowardForums: Your Mobile Phone Community & Resource - H icon instead of 3G
Some think "3G" means UMTS only and as soon you add HSDPA or HSUPA you get "H". This is incorrect. I dont know of any carrier that has UMTS rolled out alone without at least HSDPA anwhere but lots of people get "3G". When you have both HSDPA and HSUPA you can now just call it HSPA and thats when you get the H.

Hi Jking,
I just stumbled with and FCC report for some new phone and in the Cellular Connectivity section I found this that may explain the meaning of 3G and H.

"GSM/GPRS/EDGE: 850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz
UMTS/HSDPA/HSUPA: 850,1900, 2100 MHz
UMTS up to 384k download and upload
HSDPA/HSUPA up to 7.2Mbps download and 2Mbps upload"

3G is an evolution technolohgy of the GSM/EDGE, Called UMTS with better codesc, implemented over the previous specs with maximum speeds of 384kbps.

The latest two new layer implemented on top of the UMTS, is called HSDPA and HSUPA known also as HSPA. with max speeds of 14.4 Gbps

A new one is being implemented called HSPA+ Max speeds of 100 Gbps

So I can deduct that UMTS at 384 is designated "3G" on the Phones
and HSDPA at 7.2 Mbps is designated "H" on the pbone display

Also "G" is GSM at about 110 kbps and "E" is the more advancedGSM/ EDGE at about 274 kbps.

I appreciate your comments.

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[JKingGrim]

Originally Posted by Pinguino1

Thanks Jking,
I followed your link and that seems to be a consensus by it's not conclusive for lack of source.
I will keep searching, If i find a clear definition I'll share with you.

.

Yes that is definitely not an official answer but I could not find a definitive source. I would appreciate if you did find one.

Originally Posted by Pinguino1

Hi Jking,
I just stumbled with and FCC report for some new phone and in the Cellular Connectivity section I found this that may explain the meaning of 3G and H.

"GSM/GPRS/EDGE: 850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz
UMTS/HSDPA/HSUPA: 850,1900, 2100 MHz
UMTS up to 384k download and upload
HSDPA/HSUPA up to 7.2Mbps download and 2Mbps upload"

3G is an evolution technolohgy of the GSM/EDGE, Called UMTS with better codesc, implemented over the previous specs with maximum speeds of 384kbps.

The latest two new layer implemented on top of the UMTS, is called HSDPA and HSUPA known also as HSPA. with max speeds of 14.4 Gbps

A new one is being implemented called HSPA+ Max speeds of 100 Gbps

So I can deduct that UMTS at 384 is designated "3G" on the Phones
and HSDPA at 7.2 Mbps is designated "H" on the pbone display

Also "G" is GSM at about 110 kbps and "E" is the more advancedGSM/ EDGE at about 274 kbps.

I appreciate your comments.

.

To the best of my knowledge just having HSDPA is not enough to get the H icon. You must have both HSDPA and HSUPA to get the H icon. Also the G stands for GPRS which will get you up to 114 kbit/s. You are correct about edge.